The Podcast

Conversations on rethinking high school.

Short, honest conversations with educators, parents, and students on what's broken about high school today — and what it could look like instead.

Latest episodes.

New episodes drop weekly. Listen on your platform of choice, or read the recap below.

01

Why Smart Kids Struggle in School: When the Environment Is the Problem, Not the Student

Hosted by Beth Callaghan & Maggie Hagen · 3 August 2026

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In this first episode, Beth Callaghan and Maggie Hagen dig into the research to ask a question most parents haven't thought to ask: when a student struggles, are we looking in the right place? They start by debunking one of education's most persistent myths (learning styles) and build to a reframe of one of the most common and least useful assumptions parents make about struggling teenagers. The system wasn't broken for every kid. But it was never designed for every kid either.

In this episode

  • ✓The learning styles myth — and why 89% of educators still believe it
  • ✓What the traditional high school model was actually designed to do
  • ✓The anxiety-motivation connection: wrong environment vs. broken
  • ✓Signs your child may need a different path
02

Your Child Isn't Lazy: What's Really Behind Their Lack of Motivation

Hosted by Beth Callaghan & Maggie Hagen · 3 August 2026

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Most struggling students aren't unmotivated — they're in the wrong environment. In this episode, Beth Callaghan and Maggie Hagen break down the psychology of what actually hides behind the label "lazy," why some of the brightest students underperform the most, and what the research says about what mismatched students actually need.

In this episode

  • ✓Why "laziness" doesn't exist as a clinical construct
  • ✓Learned helplessness: what it is and how school creates it
  • ✓The gifted underachiever problem — and why it's more common than you think
  • ✓Person-environment fit: the same student can look completely different in a different setting
  • ✓What mismatched students actually need (it's simpler than you think)
03

How Some Students Finish High School in One Year and Prepare for College

Hosted by Beth Callaghan & Maggie Hagen · 3 August 2026

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Two episodes in, we've established the problem: traditional high school wasn't built for every student, and what looks like laziness is almost always something else. In this episode, Beth Callaghan and Maggie Hagen get concrete — what does college readiness actually require, why some students can achieve it in a year, and what College Onramps is built to do.

In this episode

  • ✓What research says is the #1 predictor of college success (it's not what you think)
  • ✓Why the four-year high school timeline is a convention, not a requirement — and who's working to change it
  • ✓The GED: honest data on outcomes, who it's right for, and why the stigma doesn't match the evidence for prepared students
  • ✓What College Onramps is: the program, the pedagogy, and the university pathway
  • ✓Who this is actually for — and who it isn't
04

Why Getting It Wrong Can Help You Learn: The Science of Desirable Difficulty

Hosted by Beth Callaghan & Maggie Hagen · 10 August 2026

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What if getting something wrong before you learn it could actually help you remember it better later? In this episode, Beth Callaghan and Maggie Hagen dig into the science of desirable difficulties — learning conditions that feel harder in the moment but strengthen memory over time. They start with a counterintuitive finding from pretesting research: students who guessed wrong on a question before studying often retained the material better than students who got extra study time instead.

In this episode

  • ✓Why getting an answer wrong before you learn it can strengthen memory
  • ✓The beanbag-throwing experiment: why practicing at varied distances beat practicing at the exact target
  • ✓Why feeling familiar with material (rereading, highlighting) isn't the same as being able to retrieve it later
  • ✓How desirable difficulty shapes College Onramps: adaptive learning, active practice, and mastery-based progression
05

What Colleges Actually Care About (It's Not What You Think)

Hosted by Beth Callaghan & Anne Hand · 17 August 2026

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Will colleges take a student seriously if they earn a GED, homeschool, or follow another nontraditional path? This episode introduces Anne Hand, Chief Quality Assurance Officer at College Onramps, who joins Beth to tackle what admissions offices actually weigh — and how nontraditional students can build a credible file. Most admissions readers work fast: at high-volume institutions, they spend roughly eight minutes per application, which means a file that doesn't read quickly reads as a red flag.

In this episode

  • ✓How long admissions officers actually spend per application, and what that means for strategy
  • ✓What "holistic review" really means once you get past the phrase
  • ✓The thin-file problem: why a GED or homeschool transcript tends to read thin, and what fixes it
  • ✓What colleges actually weigh — the record around the credential matters more than the credential itself
  • ✓How College Onramps addresses this: a partner university pathway plus a portfolio that travels anywhere

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